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#31 woody

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:41 PM

Smashed us in the last quarter. I'm really upset with that.
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View Postdarcytrainor, on Sep 19 2009, 09:48 PM, said:

Remember when Woody said Steve Johnson did nothing in September :flick: As my avator says, he is Mr September :)

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:45 PM

Genuine frontrunners. Laughable.

Was seriously hoping for a decent game.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:29 PM

View Postwoody, on 31 July 2010 - 04:41 PM, said:

Smashed us in the last quarter. I'm really upset with that.
:huh: Ah i'm hoping you saw that we pretty much didn't play in that last quarter, hence why they scored. Then again, im pretty sure you are being sarcastic, but I never know with you woody....i'll stick to you being sarcastic here.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:05 AM

View Postsmiddaz, on 30 July 2010 - 11:01 AM, said:

I actually agree. I think 50% of sides making finals is a bit too much. 5 is a good number.

With the 8 you get awful teams such as Essendon of 2009 or Carlton of this year getting into finals and being nowhere near a finals worthy side.

More evidence was supplied last weekend...

6th - Hawks rolled by Port in an awful performance.
7th - Carlton spanked by the Pies in an even worse performance.
8th - Sydney. Roos teams copping regular big losses now.
9th - North. Not in the same league as the top sides and thus does not deserve to make the eight this year.
10th - Adelaide. It rained. They lost. Too Richmond. Adios.

The eight is such a joke that Melbourne and Essendon are somehow back in the race. On recent form the Demons look the most deserving finalist.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:11 AM

Demons are most likely to sneak a place, they have the easiest run home of the lot.
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View Postdarcytrainor, on Sep 19 2009, 09:48 PM, said:

Remember when Woody said Steve Johnson did nothing in September :flick: As my avator says, he is Mr September :)

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 12:48 PM

I agree with everyone... i actually don't think we should have finals at all... have a 30 round season and the team on top wins... that's the fairest way... and then have a separate cup system... where all teams participate... draws are random and winner wins the cup... the truly great teams would win both... the good teams will win either...

having an unfair draw is the reason there is an 8 team final
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 01:37 PM

View PostGordon, on 03 August 2010 - 12:48 PM, said:

I agree with everyone... i actually don't think we should have finals at all... have a 30 round season and the team on top wins... that's the fairest way... and then have a separate cup system... where all teams participate... draws are random and winner wins the cup... the truly great teams would win both... the good teams will win either...

having an unfair draw is the reason there is an 8 team final

Wrong. The reason there is an unfair draw is the same as the reason for a final 8. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The AFL is not about equity.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 02:01 PM

View PostRik E Boy, on 03 August 2010 - 01:37 PM, said:

Wrong. The reason there is an unfair draw is the same as the reason for a final 8. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The AFL is not about equity.

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having a cup system would still generate the $$$$$
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:03 PM

Think of Grand final attendances vs home and away attendences, which generates more money? The draw isn't really that unfair, although it would be nice to play each team twice, but to do that we'd need a huge season.

Finals are a great aspect of our sport, but we need a way to reward the minor premiers the most and that should be cutting out some of the lesser teams playing finals. The AFL has had worse finals systems then the current one though.
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Remember when Woody said Steve Johnson did nothing in September :flick: As my avator says, he is Mr September :)

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:09 PM

View Postwoody, on 03 August 2010 - 03:03 PM, said:

Think of Grand final attendances vs home and away attendences, which generates more money? The draw isn't really that unfair, although it would be nice to play each team twice, but to do that we'd need a huge season.

Finals are a great aspect of our sport, but we need a way to reward the minor premiers the most and that should be cutting out some of the lesser teams playing finals. The AFL has had worse finals systems then the current one though.
Cup final would be as big as the grand final... not to mention the final rounds of the year
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:06 PM

View PostRik E Boy, on 03 August 2010 - 01:37 PM, said:

Wrong. The reason there is an unfair draw is the same as the reason for a final 8. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The AFL is not about equity.

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Got it in one. Wouldn't surprise me if the AFL wanted to make the finals top 10 once the two new teams come in. More games = more $$ especially in the finals. From a fans point of view I would hate to see the finals become a top 4 or 5 and would definitely hate to see the thing that Gordon's suggesting. Almost as bad as a NBA type playoffs system.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:35 PM

I think the home and away season is seriously getting ripped off...

I still feel pissed off about the 2007 Hawthorn flag... teams that dominate during the year deserve a trophy... not the same reward as the team the finishes second... third or fourth...

Final 8 as indicate is a joke...

Say the best team of the year cops massive injuries just before finals... why should it be about the best team with least injuries around september? The premiership cup should be for the best team... nothing else...

A cup involving every team will give the whole knockout tension finals lovers crave... also gives out more games... hence higher and the cup final would generate as much fans as GF...

and the final few rounds of the home and away season... especially in a close season... would be high tension...

The reward of finishing higher on the ladder is to be placed in the better pool when the cup draw happens for the following year... so there is always a reason to play... especially if there is 4 pools...

I know only people who love the world game or following European sports would love this...
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:39 PM

how about everyone plays everyone at home and away then the team on top wins it like the EPL (english premier league)
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:40 PM

View PostMatt_352, on 04 August 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

how about everyone plays everyone at home and away then the team on top wins it like the EPL (english premier league)
Game is too physically demanding to play everyone twice.

Can't play everyone once....the home ground debate would be ridiculous.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 04:49 PM

View Postsmiddaz, on 04 August 2010 - 04:40 PM, said:

Game is too physically demanding to play everyone twice.

Can't play everyone once....the home ground debate would be ridiculous.
Bull crap

Make games slightly shorter... 15 minute quaters instead of 20
or 17.5

going from 22 to 30 round isn't too much to ask for people getting paid 10x more than an average salary...

Let teams organise their own preseason practice matches... not through an AFL organised competition where team can determine exactly how many games they want to play...

With the new teams it would be harder and it would go to 34 rounds... which it getting to the brink... but I think it is achievable... i know its alot more physically demanding than other sports... but soccer for instance they can play upto 60 games a year...
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